Sunday, August 10, 2014

Science and Governments have been purchased, Global Warming proven false

The latest Conca shill push is for "more radiation" and now its "listen to us because we call ourselves scientists". A few comments from a reader at Forbes are below. I think he nails the issues nicely. Go visit the article at Forbes too and leave a comment.

 Also to keep this "science" thing in context, bear in mind the number of scientists who continue to lie about "global warming". Nukepro settled that issue once and for all. There has been no warming for the last 17 years. Here is the proof using real data.

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/08/global-warming-real-information-from.html

Visit the Conca Shill here

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/08/03/science-is-not-democratic/

Finally the reader comments, spot on, but I wonder if he is being sarc with "great faith in Obama".....
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  • Terry Trent 1 day ago
    Correcting earlier comment:
    You have got to be kidding me!? The single largest practitioners of junk science in the United States or you could just as easily call them liars and con men, are the members at the highest levels of our Public Health System. Mainly ATSDR and EPA. Although EPA has a few competent scientists who know that following the mandates of ATSDR is wrong, but will not speak up. Can not speak up under threat of firing.
    You don’t believe me? From past History look up Tuskegee Alabama syphilis epidemic for historical context. Look up Libby Montana for 50 years of abuse currently under way. Still not convinced? Have a health professional help you out with mesothelioma death rates in Jefferson Parrish Louisiana…10 times larger than Libby Montana from a similar environmental epidemic. No Public Health Emergency there even at 10 times the first and largest ever declared. OK so you are hugely skeptical? Contact Dr. Marc Shencker at UC Davis epidemiology and ask for death rates in Amador, Tulomne and El Dorado Counties California from environmental Tremolite. So what? Look up the dates of first publications of Libby Montana problems, and Metsovo Greece Metsovo Lung published in the US by Stavros Constantopoulis and Arthur M. Langer.
    Still don’t get it? Try this on for size. Real Estate is the most valuable asset to Unites States local government, the most valuable asset to business on par, throughout the US. The government would clear the path to moving housing tracks on top of active volcanoes if people could not see it for themselves. These agencies ATSDR, EPA, State EPA, local Health Departments,although some are making the common scientific mistake of following those they think are smarter than themselves, but most are not, “task themselves”, emphasis added, to fake testing, skew test results and otherwise obscure important information that individuals should have, all in the name of “not panicking the people”. All of these Public Health Agencies work directly or indirectly for the President of the United States.
    Although I have great faith in Obama..there is a huge gap that has existed long before he entered office, between the Presidency and his scientific minions. He or they as the case has been, are the very last to know what their scientists are doing.
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  • Hmmm. Well I thought my words were overly aggressive. Not seeing the defensiveness other than the whole position of standing in front of public health scientists, who succumb to a political “story” is of course defending. It is defending the integrity of science, the well being of humans, the entity of family and friends. Each of the scientists I refer to manipulate what is presented to the public, from the starting point of falsifying testing procedures to adjusting data to conform to that story. If proven wrong publicly,they become embarrassed for brief periods before realizing that there are so few people who understand or care, on any given subject, that they may easily revert to their original or nearly their original story, usually until they retire and are safely away from the controversy they may have left behind.
    Obama has no earthly idea at all. He has no adviser who would know ether. Neither did George Bush. Hillary knew very well what I was speaking of and acted upon what I gave her to the best of her ability. She took Cheney down on the subject for 7 years. He did not get what he wanted in year one, until the last year of Bush’s presidency. Then Bush from the presidential podium of State of teh Nation gave him precisely what he wanted…a way for companies across the nation to avoid the entire liability of what they had done…especially Haliburton…but certainly many others.
    These people/scientists I speak of act outside our government in a way. They do not report to anyone in the White House other than the office of Budget Management…..who controls the executive agencies by purse strings…not by policy. Well I should accurately say, not by overseen policy. They invent as they go along…in a way inventing good news by adjusting science, so they do not have to report bad news to their boss. Their boss being the President.
    On a very positive note….where you do find the scientists who do not succumb to politically motivated government dogma/stories,”the good guys” is in academia. Not everyone mind you, but a bunch. Those who have been in the trenches their entire careers, fighting, quietly, methodically, brilliantly against the corruption of our entire construct of science….partially to no avail. I refer you to Dr. Bruce Case who will no more like the way I presented the above than you do….but who will substantively not disagree much. (He will not be shy about letting me know). Who has maintained an aggressive but somewhat positive and brilliantly subtle approach throughout his long career. These “good guys”struggle directly with scientist who have “sold out”, but their real battle is with government…it is a struggle almost 99% of government has no idea is even going on.
    Finally, I will leave you with what amounts to more than an anecdote. Our EPA, meaning the full force of our Federal governments legal ability, took WR Grace to a Jury trial on criminal charges regarding what happened in Libby Montana. Long story of course, all of it relating to enormous incompetency within government scientists, but their was one newspaper man named David Latham, who summed up the acquittal of WR Grace beautifully at the end of the trial with one sentence. Not certain I am quoting it word for word but you will get the idea. “EPA can not convict someone who they have always been in partnership with”. Therein lies almost all of the problem as it pertains to scientists being politically controlled.

6 comments:

  1. Aloha.

    Quote: "Northeast Pacific coastal warming since 1900 is often ascribed to anthropogenic greenhouse forcing, whereas multidecadal temperature changes are widely interpreted in the framework of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), which responds to regional atmospheric dynamics. This study uses several independent data sources to demonstrate that century-long warming around the northeast Pacific margins, like multidecadal variability, can be primarily attributed to changes in atmospheric circulation. It presents a significant reinterpretation of the region’s recent climate change origins, showing that atmospheric conditions have changed substantially over the last century, that these changes are not likely related to historical anthropogenic and natural radiative forcing, and that dynamical mechanisms of interannual and multidecadal temperature variability can also apply to observed century-long trends."

    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/09/16/1318371111.abstract

    Aloha. Yamashita smile ON. ... Not working, dammit!

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  2. Quote: "We are focusing on CO2, Greenhouse effect which is our stupidity in action, Water vapor alone, ignoring clouds, has 52 times the "Greenhouse effect" effect of CO2. CO2 is only somewhat less than 2% of that effect."

    http://nexialinstitute.com/GlobalWarm.htm

    Strange site.

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  3. Title: "War of words over global warming as Nobel laureate resigns in protest" (25 Sep 2011)

    Quote: " In a fresh challenge to claims that there is scientific "consensus" on climate change, Prof Ivar Giaever has resigned from the American Physical Society, where his peers had elected him a fellow to honour his work.

    The society, which has 48,000 members, has adopted a policy statement which states: "The evidence is incontrovertible: global warming is occurring."

    But Prof Giaever, who shared the 1973 Nobel award for physics, told The Sunday Telegraph. "Incontrovertible is not a scientific word. Nothing is incontrovertible in science."

    The US-based Norwegian physicist, who is the chief technology officer at Applied Biophysics Inc and a retired academic at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, the oldest technological university in the English-speaking world, added: "Global warming has become the new religion." "

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8786565/War-of-words-over-global-warming-as-Nobel-laureate-resigns-in-protest.html

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  4. further quote from above linked article:

    "He questioned whether the average temperature of "the whole earth for a whole year" can be accurately measured, but contended that even if the results are accurate, they indicate the climate has actually been "amazingly stable" for 150 years. "
    ...
    "Last year, another sceptic, Hal Lewis, a University of California professor quit the group, describing global warming as a "scam" and a "pseudoscientific fraud". "

    Quote: "Harold ("Hal") Warren Lewis (born October 1, 1923, in New York City;[1] died May 26, 2011[2]) was an Emeritus Professor of Physics and former department chairman at the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB). In 2010, after 67 years of membership, Lewis resigned from the American Physical Society, writing in a letter about the "corruption" from "the money flood" of government grants."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Lewis (alumnus of Berkeley)

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  5. Quote: "I am personally touched by all the comments here, and by the obituary itself, as would my father have been. That he was a person of deep integrity and commitment to truth and honesty in science hits the mark perfectly. That he was a brilliant physicist with great breadth and depth (from what I hear) also hits the mark. That he took his amazing science talents and applied them to improve life in so many ways (Jason, nuclear reactor safety, climate controversy, debunking cold fusion, and a zillion more examples) is what impressed me. That he was quiet and humble – well, those words above just made me chuckle, especially the latter! He would have agreed with my assessment. We once had business cards made up for him that said “hal lewis, expert”. No subject – just “expert”. He carried those around. No, I would not call him a humble man. :-)
    I think the perception of him being quiet might have arisen because so much of what he did wasn’t and couldn’t be public. But I think you’ll find that people who worked with him would probably not describe him as quiet. I’ve seen posts elsewhere that imply he didn’t really do much in his life of significance, because they can’t find it in the public literature. Wrong conclusion.
    My brother and I need to get our acts together to write a proper obituary, I guess.

    Nina"

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/09/obituary-hal-lewis/#comment-697660

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