Wednesday, October 8, 2014

Troll Attack from Oak Ridge Tennessee

Oh so interesting.    A new poster (aka poser) at ENENEWS tried to shoot down "stock" by claiming a visit from a troll IP was actually Oak Ridge New Jersey, not Oak Ridge Tennessee.    Attempting to discredit truth.     Can't have none of that in the nuke industry, truth that is.

Here is the log at time of troll comment.    Interesting though, my IP logger does a better job and nailed Oak Ridge at time of troll comment.

A rabbit hole full of blue pill takers.


And since I am doing stats, this is an interesting list of visitors this year.     Funny how France is number 3, even though they supposedly "love nuclear" methinks NOT.

And Poland making a strong showing.  

Those visiting from other countries, please drop a comment!

WestKyman put together this log of troll activity

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Looks real funny when its laid out in chronological order…
He even admitted it’s his job….
 

Sunday, October 5, 2014

93 One Liner Lies of the Nuclear Cartel

Classic One Liner Lies of Nuke

combomelt, from ENE used my list to create an awesome video, please watch it and drop a comment,


Well I added another one liner lie.    Rod Adams helped me find this lie when one of his twitter buddies did a post on how  solar energy never has a chance for the  future because making the solar energy devices takes more energy than they produce in their lifetime.   Wow, the levels these pimps will stoop to to promote their 'precious' nuclear radiation cartel.

The reality is that for PV panels, it takes about 6 months of energy production of the device in order to offset the energy used in producing the device.    And the lifetime is at least 30 years.

The lie in one liner form
"Solar Energy has no future because it takes more energy to create the solar system, than the solar system produces in it's lifetime"

You can probably use the search function to find some backup to each of these lies of nuclear.    When someone, be it media, a research organization, a government speaker, whoever, starts pimping out one of these lies, then you can start reading their material in a new, more suspicious light.

As a future project, I intend on following each sentence with a link to a concise debunk of each of these lies.    Its like shooting fish in a barrel.   Anyone who wants to volunteer a link and debunk, send as a comment.  

As you folks come across other nice One Liners, drop them as comments and I will add to the list.

  1. ''No immediate health effects''
  2. ''At safe levels to eat''
  3. ''Nuclear is safe"
  4. "Nuclear is cheap"
  5. ''Dispersion in the ocean makes it harmless''
  6. ''Dilution is the solution''
  7. ''Too low to measure''
  8. ''Safer than eating a banana''
  9. "Larger dose from flying on an airplane"
  10. "Sleeping next to someone gives you a larger radioactive dose"
  11. "Become I131 radiation rapidly depletes due to quick half life, we don't have to worry about any of the radiation."
  12. ''Nuclear power is cheap"
  13. ''Part of background''
  14. ''Definitely not caused by radiation''
  15. ''We can rule radiation out as the cause''
  16. ''No need to test''
  17. ''Harmless at current levels''
  18. ''It was a hydrogen explosion at Fukushima, impossible to have a nuclear explosion''
  19. "Because you cannot prove that the disease was caused by a specific radiation, the information is not valid until proven by the scientific method."
  20. "Nuclear is safe because they have backup power"
  21. "Nuclear is safe because background radiation is high, so don't worry about a little more"
  22. "The radiation from that release is in 'the noise' of the background radiation"
  23. "It's green and clean"
  24. "Nuclear is the only thing that can save the climate from excess carbon"
  25. "Nuclear plants have pooled insurance"
  26. "The nuclear plants were forced by the NRC to set aside enough money to fully decomission the plant when it is done with its life." ----------- Sellafield 70B
  27. "The original 40 year number wasn't the 'design life' it was just an arbitrary number that meant nothing"
  28. "When we are done with the plant, we will return the land in an untouched 'greenfield' condition"
  29. "The NRC makes nuclear industry safe by regulating them"
  30. "The IAEA regulates the worldwide nuclear industry"
  31. "No deaths caused by nuclear radiation from civilian plants"
  32. "Just keep smiling and radiation will not hurt you"
  33. "Thorium reactors are completely safe"
  34. "Defense in depth 'safety protocol' at nuke plants means that a major accident should only happen about every 2000 years."
  35. "All the nuclear waste in the world could fit in a football field"
  36. "The solution for nuclear waste is a single permanent repository"
  37. "Nuclear power emits ZERO CO2"
  38. "Reactors cannot blow up like nuclear bombs"
  39. "No radiation from Japan will reach the USA"
  40. "Price-Anderson is what brings nuclear regulation to any nuclear activity"
  41. "Our meters are so good, and can measure radiation so small, that we refuse to present any actual data because it will just scare people"
  42. "The fear of radiation is much more harmful than the radiation itself"
  43. "We are from the government, we are here to help" 
  44. "A little bit of radiation is actually good for you, are you getting enough?"
  45. "At no time was there any danger to the public"
  46. "Just because a nuke worker was sent home 'unfit to work' doesn't actually mean anything important"
  47. "Fukushima not as bad as Chernobyl"
  48. "None of the radiation went into the ocean it was all contained in the 1.4 SQ KM 'zone' <Abe>"
  49. "Fukushima is in cold shutdown"
  50. "Fukushima will absolutely not effect the 2020 Olympics"
  51. "There are good people working in nuclear, therefore you shouldn't talk bad about their chosen profession"
  52. "Don't worry about living within 20 miles of a reactor, just take your iodine pill when the authorities tell you to, and you will be fine."
  53. "If you are Anti-Nuke, that means you are pro-coal"
  54. "If you are Anti-Civilian Nuclear Reactors, then you are anti- nuke submarines and therfore, anti national security"
  55. "There have only been a handful of nuclear accidents"
  56. "What you are measuring is leftover from the cold war bomb testing"
  57. "Cancer is normal and wide spread"
  58. "You can drink 32g of Plutonium and you'll be fine"
  59. "No one was killed by Fukushima"
  60. "There was no plutonium released by Fukushima"
  61. "No one could have predicted a tsunami so high"
  62. Reactor 4 was a hydrogen explosion with hydrogen transferred from Reactor 3 ------
  63. "Solar Energy has no future because it takes more energy to create the solar system, than the solar system produces in it's lifetime"
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Add ons from readers!

  1. "Nuclear power is too cheap to meter"
  2. "There will always be power and backup generators to prevent a meltdown."
  3. "Humanity can contain the atom and it won't kill the innocent."
  4. "Each nuclear plant insures itself, and just in case their insurance runs out, there is plenty of extra coverage in 'pooled insurance'  from all the reactors."
  5. "Entergy is NOT a slum lord"
  6. "Anyone who is opposed to nuclear power is a 'fearmonger' "
  7. "All those poor people in Japan are dying because they are homesick, they never should have been evacuated from Fukushima" <this coming from a nuclear engineering professor>
  8. "Diabetes in Fukushima kids being caused by radiophobic parent forcing kids to play indoors leading to unhealthy lifestyle"
  9. "Increased cancers in Japan cannot possibly be caused by Fukushima because cancer takes more time to grow."
  10. "No one died from Fukushima" ---- FOIA docs says otherwise 5 Death Lethal Rads
  11. "The radiation on the us coast is not from Fukushima but probably from red radioactive plastic eating utensils" -- We refuse to even rebutt this one, this statement by a State official is insulting in it's ignorance.
  12. "If we store it deep underground, everything will work out fine"  AGR Fallacy of Nuke Storage
  13. "Plutonium and Americium are heavy metals, so they won't go very far in the air" 
  14. "My family and I live here, therefore it must be safe" Said at the WIPP propagnda dissemination event.
  15. fearmongering
  16. Arnie is pro-Nuke
  17. sodium reactors are safe
  18. Thorium reactors have no waste
  19. reactor grade plutonium is not the same as weapons grade plutonium
  20. transmutation the alchemist's dream
  21. Brown's Gas
  22. Roy's Process
  23. "cold" fusion
  24. nuclear energy is to increase water availability
  25. radioactive particles decay to safe non-radioactive particles
  26. radiation is good for you (aka whoremesis)
  27. vitrification
  28. safe repository
  29. clean and green
  30. no CO2 emissions

  31. "Nobody could have predicted such rare occurrence."
    "We were previously unaware of problems."
    "Our best and brightest people are on the job."
    "It was only a minor incident."
    "Our customers are important to us." 
    stock, do you have FactCheckers's one liner: expose children to radiation so they will be immune to radiation later in life.
    Troll at ENE: no thanks. You have your own anti nuke jihad ..I don't care for radicalized soldiers. 
  32. The dropping of the Atomic Bomb at Hiroshima was necessary, it saved hundreds of thousands of lives.      Debunk ---- http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html


I apologize to some contributors who listed their comments on other sites...while do multiple updates, some of my earliest started updates, "covered up" subsequent updates!  Sheesh, I hate is when that happens.    Maybe I'll just ask the NSA for an interim archive version, LOL!
    And last, but not least, we get some some quality rhetoric and wisdom from the latest troll infesting ENENEWS and here----laughable.    At least socref could pretend to be civilized.

    And try saying that to say, a Grizzly Bear, or perhaps, Leukemia.      What doesn't kill you sometimes just makes you weaker...that  is the way that radiation works. 
      30 Ways The Nuclear Industry Deceives Everyone; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/primer-in-art-of-deception-cult-of.htmlhttp://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/primer-in-art-of-deception-cult-of.html


    https://theoldspeakjournal.wordpress.com/2011/03/16/the-tsunami-of-lies-about-nuclear-power/

    http://www.nuclearpowerdanger.com/http://www.nuclearpowerdanger.com/


    And let's not forget ''the scientific method'', without which where would we be lol.

    Fukushima Reactor 3, Did the Reactor Itself Blow it's Lid, Or Fuel / Equipment Pool, or all?

    Here are some pictures to consider.    There has been a hot debate at ENENEWS today about what exactly did blow up.   I will add to this post later.

    The fall harvest is underway and the garden stuffed green peppers are baking and it is time to fry up the swiss chard (my job)



    The Radiation Still to go into WIPP can Contaminate the Entire Planet

    I did some calculation to "bring it home" —just the amount of "low level" waste they want to still put into WIPP, is enough to, if spread evenly among all humans, animals, fish, plankton, plants of all sorts, to bring the entire world up to 70 Bq/lb.
    And animals at 30 Bq/lb start having severe health problems


    Note that even thought the Remote Handled Waste is only 4% of the waste by volume, it is 3/7th of the total radioactivity.

    Per the former WIPP lab manager, James Conca, they have stuff in WIPP way hotter than anything at Hanford, 7 Curies per liter.   That is enough to bring 1,000,000,000 Costco size chickens up to 200 Bq/lb.   

    Again, severe damage is done to animals at 30 Bq/lb.      You can't sell any animals over 100 Bq/lb as food even though they are being "diluted" by other food.  

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    I read a whole WIPP report, they are brutal to read. But amazing truths jump out at you. They pretend that WIPP is only for Transuranics (Plutonium and higher) but it is not, they are stashing a hundred different isotopes in there, including some old favorites like Cesium and Strontium!
    In the report they state the future incoming radiation inventory, its 9.81E16 Bq, add 16 zeros.
    If you take all of the living things on earth and calculate total mass and divide the Bq by that you get
    70 Bq per lb. Into every living thing on earth
    Just what is planned to go into WIPP is enought to contaminate every thing on earth to very dangerous levels.

    Total bio mass on earth
    700 Billion Tons
    2000 lbs per ton
    1400000 Billion pounds
    1,400,000,000,000,000 pounds of biomass on earth
     
    Total Curies of ONLY the remote handled waste intended for WIPP
    1.15E+06 RH Activity Only
    3.70E+10 bq per Curie
    4.26E+16 Bq for Remote Handled Only to enter WIPP in the future
    30 Bq per Lb of every living thing on earth (for only the RH Remote Handled Waste)

    Total Curies to enter WIPP in future, Remote Handled and Contact Handled
    2.65E+06 RH and CH Activity
    3.70E+10 bq per Curie
    9.81E+16 Bq for RH and CH WIPP in the future
    70 Bq per Lb of every living thing on earth  (for the remote and contact handled)

    Source Data
    http://www.wipp.energy.gov/library/TRUwaste/ATWIR_2013_Rev_1.pdf



    Government Employed Trolls Show at NukePro and ENENEWS to disrupt --- SOCREF

    Socref shows up again on September 20 at Nukepro, see below, comment was sent to moderation review by Google blogger software.

    I received this comment on 9-20-2014

    The a "new troll" shows up at ENENEWS and pretends not to be socref, even responding "who is this socref you keep talking about".

    But he is nailed out of the gate, using his classic lines of "steam is far more deadly than radiation" and "that dog don't hunt".

    A few months back he stated that his wife had died from cancer.   Now just yesterday he stated that his 14 year old son had died from cancer and he was sure it wasn't radiation.

    The nuclear cartel is worried, they have their back to the wall and are trying every game in the book to try to extract more money from people, take pot shots at true renewable energy sources, and ride on the coattails of the global warming lie. 

    Although the internet is a great tool, it is sad that it is used for propaganda from the Criminals that Be.