Some great investigative reporting in New Mexico
http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.htmlTaken together, the documents provide a window into a culture of oversight at the lab that, in the race to clean up the waste, had so broken down that small missteps sometimes led to systemic problems.
Even before the waste was treated at Los Alamos, mistakes had been made that could have been instrumental in causing the accident at WIPP. Emails between WIPP contractors involved in the leak investigation indicate that something as simple as a typographical error in a revision of LANL’s procedural manual for processing waste containing nitrate salts may have precipitated a switch from inorganic clay kitty litter to the organic variety.
And for two years preceding the February incident, the lab refused to allow inspectors conducting annual permitting audits for the New Mexico Environment Department inside the facility where waste was treated. Only since the radiation leak has the Environment Department demanded that it go inside the facility for inspections.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.U7QN1Dse.dpuf
Taken together, the documents provide a window into a culture of oversight at the lab that, in the race to clean up the waste, had so broken down that small missteps sometimes led to systemic problems.
Even before the waste was treated at Los Alamos, mistakes had been made that could have been instrumental in causing the accident at WIPP. Emails between WIPP contractors involved in the leak investigation indicate that something as simple as a typographical error in a revision of LANL’s procedural manual for processing waste containing nitrate salts may have precipitated a switch from inorganic clay kitty litter to the organic variety.
And for two years preceding the February incident, the lab refused to allow inspectors conducting annual permitting audits for the New Mexico Environment Department inside the facility where waste was treated. Only since the radiation leak has the Environment Department demanded that it go inside the facility for inspections.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.U7QN1Dse.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
“This is direct contradiction of DOE/NNSA policy and what we believed in,” Chiou wrote to Franco, Bryson and others. “It is most important that we have the information (regardless official or unofficial) so that we as [the Carlsbad Field Office of the Energy Department] can make better informed decisions as best we could. However, it may not work that way as it seems. … I hope that we can do better in getting relevant information from LANL so we can make a better decision for the WIPP project.”
After a conference call with LANL officials, WIPP decision-makers on May 30 sent workers in protective suits into the room to collect samples. But a June 17 report by LANL personnel based at WIPP found the intense underground flare may have destabilized up to 55 more drums of waste that were in close proximity to Waste Drum 68660 when it ruptured, calling into question whether they, too, had become poised to burst.
“[The high heat event] may have dried out some of the unreacted oxidizer-organic mixtures increasing their potential for spontaneous reaction,” the report said. “The dehydration of the fuel-oxidizer mixtures caused by the heating of the drums is recognized as a condition known to increase the potential for reaction.”
Keeping secrets
Frustrations over LANL’s reluctance to share what it knew about Waste Drum 68660 had been percolating at WIPP long before the discovery of the memo that suggested the drum contained all the ingredients of a patented plastic explosive.
A May 5 email between WIPP employee James Willison and federal contractor Fran Williams suggested LANL was reluctant to acknowledge the most basic details about what Waste Drum 68660 held.
“LANL used a wheat-based kitty litter rather than clay-based kitty litter as a stabilizer,” Willison wrote. “They fessed up after we nailed down the general area. … At least now we know.”
“Wow,” Williams responded. “How bad is that?”
On paper, the volatile combination of contents inside the drum that burst were not evident to experts who reviewed them because they were not included in the list of ingredients Los Alamos is required to generate for regulatory purposes and to assure the waste is stable enough to be accepted at WIPP.
- See more at: http://www.lasg.org/press/2014/SFNM_16Nov2014.html#sthash.OyAxVRJE.dpuf
The tolerance of severe negative energy trolls should not be.
If the Administration cannot keep up with it, he/she should give 3 or 4 other obvious trusted individuals with level heads to have ban privileges, it is a built in part of WordPress.
Not just that they disrupt and taunt and bring people to their worst.
But this website allowing them with impunity to call me gay and an atheist. That goes strongly against my basic makeup.
And to see those comments stay on the site after being reported a full 24 hours….that's a big no go.
Good luck, those who have been paying attention have my email. I will also leave the Nukepro site up for now, as there is useful information there.
Aloha,
stock out
stock as you know taking a hiatus can be fruitful. Especially with so many dropzilla fruitflies buzzing around and mutating, showing up again and again, trying to derail conversations. this was actually a good thread, and lots of it is still good. i vote for us to not be derailed.
Has anyone written admin on facebook to remind the person to clean the threads of fruitflies again?
agree on request for more moderators.
zogerke out.
protocols schmotocols……call a reptile a reptile and be done with it. Do Not Ever apologize for being you.
"how dare you call me a democrat"…just too damn funny, on multiple levels. I cyber hug you….long time
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How did you manage to find sanity?
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AGR is asking for volunteer admins as well.
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Many have left because of various situations resulting from Admin's hands-off approach.
Admin has said s/he is too busy to attend to it.
This is an essentially unmoderated site. No one should expect it to get any better.
Personally, I expect progressive deterioration.
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JUST LEAVE US ALONE!!!
GO AWAY!!!
Newsers…
I think we all should just NOT reply to ANY TROLL comments. Nothing. Let it say whatever it wants!! If we don't look at it or acknowledge its existence, it'll fade.
Don't even bother to read their shit! We know what we know. C'mon guys…. our replying is just egging it on! We're losing the good ones because we are letting our anger and rage take precedence over what is important!!
Who's with me??
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Job was right and all the devils minions were put to shame.
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Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', 'Fukushima truther' and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
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Stock is right. There is a limit. That one can take.
There is a limit to how many creatures can die.
There is a limit to how much species genome damage is done.
There is a limit to the lies before they become obvious.
So far, there are no limits to Fukushima's contamination.
The world knows. It's everywhere like a cancer, woven into our daily life and even in our satire. The new normal.
Does anyone really get it?
Or will everyone eventually get it?
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No matter how small a wave, it's still bigger than you…
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If that is true, then why are you still here? What does that say about you?
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Better still ..for whom?
Why is my/our failure important ..to you?
Is this on a personal level?
Does this have something to do with your childhood?
Have you seen my cellphone?
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Just wondering…
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Is it true ..that the angels are weeping?
Dream well ..Enenews..
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Empty cafe = Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYUwY8jGx0
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Another reason I am here is to document your failed efforts.
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Sure , milk that extermination in progress for every kick you can get out of it..
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I think that might be blasphemy, perhaps punishable by stoning in some countries, or excommunication. That hardly qualifies as the “Voice.”
My source speaks to me every day, and it reaffirms, be aware of false prophets.
A fraudulent science of radiation effects has been promulgated by the ICRP, forming the current foundation of radiation safety, which ignores the actual microbiological effects of internal radiation emitters and discounts the effects of LLR.
Since your arrival, over +8,000 have liked ENE. Clearly you have been banging on a keyboard and neglected the meditation I suggested would have assisted in your focus.
Instead:
Mr. Nutshell, in the name of the almighty, clarifies that those eating a feast made from Fukushima contaminated produce have nothing to fear, even if they have eaten off of Fiesta plates, under Coleman lantern lamps.
Invoking the “American way” as justifying NP to boil water for electricity, to enrich the few through taxpayer subsidies and through the ongoing health cost to communities surrounding NP activity, is nothing more than the continuing ventriloquist act.
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Students of advanced chemistry and microbiology understand the of radiological impacts on organisms.
By now you should have an update on the 100 or so scrolls for which peer reviewed publication was previously requested.
Here we are, a half century or so later with hundreds of thousands of tons of nuclear trash, no permanent waste solution is in sight, and vast quantities of trash being generated each year.
Who’s paying for the hundreds of billions or trillions in cost related to FU and Chernobyl containment? It’s not the voice of god, is the taxes paid by hard working people who are continuously being exposed to the profit generating waste.
Nuclearists sack the public coffers through corporate welfare.
Radioisotopes never present before man made fission, are now upon the earth, aloft upon the winds and contaminating our waters, being incorporated into our macromolecules and our progenies DNA tertiary structures, and expressed in DNA defects generously conveyed for 22 generations.
None of the world’s population asked for this.
God would never approve of such offensive misappropriation of the name or offence against gods people…
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What is a devil?
A devil is a lazy, uncaring, lying, deceptive being that disobeys basic universal laws of humanity and transparent democracy. Rat finks that infest towns and cause fences to be erected to protect the township.
Please enlighten us vox dei as to your fence choice.
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"… there are no limits to Fukushima's contamination."
– Jebus
Round and round she spews, where she stops nobody knows…
IMO – Eventually, everyone and everything will, get it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q
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Maybe because they are that?
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VoxDei shows no remorse or concern about illness and death, regardless of contributing factors. Thus VoxDei is a psychopath by definition, a psychopath with carte blanche to do anything, including poison women, children and every living thing…create dead zones, surrounded by sick zones…with impunity because his imagined god will save him in the end and deliver him to the gates of paradise.
A character right out of a movie.
Meanwhile, people who care about the world, about stopping the insanity of mass poisoning from unneeded industry or organized crime syndicates, are driven away.
Ive noticed psycho asses have persistence when perpetrating their destructive often sad-masochist agenda, where sane nice people back away. Thus the aggressive, self-centered, and insensitive work their way into control and, ultimately…war, exploitation and the mass poisoning of the ecosystem is the visible result. A tragic story for a lonely planet
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Maybe a certain trollbot needs to look in the mirror…
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"With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for them the best diet, according to my judgment and means; and I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage.
Nor shall any man's entreaty prevail upon me to administer poison to anyone; neither will I counsel any man to do so."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
Poison includes invisible, heavy metal, radioactive elements.. coming out of fission reactors and uranium/thorium mines, DU weapons.
But V, feel free to drink radium, cesium, strontium, and plutonium, plus breathe in 'enhanced' radioactive enriched air fortified with health increasing hormesis man made elements. Maybe Hippocrates was wrong. Drink hearty.
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http://biblehub.com/luke/4-23.htm
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The wolf in sheeps clothing reveals himself.
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He made that exact same reply to your exact same statement way back.
Is Fukushima outlasting the playbook, VoxDecipiebant?
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"… the rumors and fears surrounding radiation contamination are hard to dampen."
– Jake Ellison
Gee, I wonder why that is?
Maybe it's because we are constantly lied to, admittedly from day 1.
Maybe it's because the FALLOUT is continuing and accumultating. They always seem to forget to mention that.
A NOTE to those at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.
(WHOI)
>>> Common sense 101:
If the cesium-137, which is HAZARDOUS to LIFE, for more than 300 years, (let's say it like it is), is now off the coast of California after only 3 years… then add to that the ongoing emissions and FALLOUT continuing to ACCUMULATE and spread. Let's not forget the other radioactive isotopes that also add to the mix of goo that are not tested for. They always leave those out too.
One has to wonder sometimes just how future history will view the Nuclear Proponents at the end of their reign of immoral, overly risky, methods for boiling water.
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And if you are bot, you don't care, because the faux virtual drivel is what matters, not getting into real debates, point by point.
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I do think the entity's above reply is a 'canned' response.
My comment does not even mention the word 'risk'. It's just gibberish. It's certainly not a real reply.
Here… I'll quantify it for you.
(NPPs / RISK) + Fukushima + waste + The next meltdown = X
Where X represents the point we are headed if we don't STOP the insanity of risking the planet in order to boil water.
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Behold VoxDei, not as an individual, but as a representative of a mind-set. unaffected by the suffering of children and animals, immune from guilt, self assumed darling of god, to be saved in the final days from the dire, painful scythe of the grim reaper, regardless of his actions.
Such types as VoxDei abound in the nuclear cartel, and too many cabals and cloisters, whether four, five or six sided. Their motive is gold and power; manipulation and exploitation their métier; suffering is their produce.
for every psychopathic leader there are a thousand enablers.
A tragic tale for a lonely planet
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http://www.occupycorporatism.com/cia-sponsored-trolls-monitor-social-media-interact-with-users-to-discredit-factual-information/
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• Carry out directives on designated targets at the discretion of the US government
These “cyber operators” are trained to become an elite team of “computer geniuses” that are experts in computer hacking, digital communications, cyber intelligence – for the purpose of spying on Americans; as well as conducting interactive digital psy-ops with users of the internet."
Well, well… Looks like a few of those psy-ops freaks could be a regular occurrence here in the comment section. But to call them "geniuses" is a rather large overstatement.
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Truth is the ultimate form of love…..
Bitter as it may be sometimes…..
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The ocean is now warmer than ever before in recorded history
http://qz.com/296706/the-ocean-is-now-warmer-than-ever-before-in-recorded-history/
I'm surprised the atmosphere doesn't glow like a colored neon lamp…
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WE ARE AT WAR WITH THESE REACTORS.
THE PRIZE IS THE EARTH.
GOT A SPACESHIP?
I've been reading this site for years. Yes it is depressing this F.D. FUBAR. Stock take a break an be with those that are important to you. Then come back.
Even if we cannot win let us not be viewed by the cosmos as quitters.
My thinking is big machines ( see other post). I'm just trying to think way out of the sphere.
No giving up –
I read others problems here and they are real.
No giving up.
PEACE ( oops dated myself)
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We're fighting for the health of our children, their children and that includes all of the species we can nurture too. Come what may, we shouldn't jump off the cliff on purpose to please the nuke industry.
The people who read these threads are increasing and the need for them to hear all that has been kept from them is their choice and right. I think we all know that we can't predict the future but we'll take care of each other whether it's for a short time or long.
I love this planet and all the good that takes place on it. I'm not the kind of person who hopes it's my last incarnation on the way to getting my eternal cloud sitting badge. I plan to hang close after I die and be part of the spirit tribe who listens in and I'll protect and back-up the people still in this physical niche of the quantum squiggles the best I can. I plan to be a kick ass good humored practical helper non-corporeal friend for those who come next.
Whatever happens these next years, it would break my frkn' heart if the kids who have to face this mess without us felt forgotten and alone.
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It's past time.
It's clear when there is off topic antagonistic trolling by an entity whose hubris and rhetoric repeat in a nonstop manner.
Did I mention, it's annoying and distracting too.
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The nuclear cartel is all about one way dialogue. Everyone else is shut out. Science is about debate and dialogue, but the nuclear cartel does not allow this.
WHO is muzzled and suppressed.
IAEA won't listen to anyone except 'insiders'.
None of the 'peer' reviewed journals will accept any but their own insider articles.
Faux science…
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And if there is reincarnation, may each one felled by this criminal cartel, come back not as one, but as ONE MILLION freedom fighters and activists.
So as you get rid of one, you multiply the opposition by one million.
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But because you are so good , a part of your creation needs something you have very understandebly neither the energy or the time for..
A MODERATOR !
pretty please…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu1KYe3sc8
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I nominate Jebus and Sickputer as a first choice , but there are many good people who can recognise the difference between an evildoer and someone having a "senior moment".
We need to make a list of nominee's..
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Global nuclear power contribution falls to lowest since 1980s
Of the 67 reactors under construction globally as at July 2014, at least 49 were experiencing delays and eight had been under construction for 20 years, it said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/29/nuclear-industry-decline-idUSL4N0Q42P220140729
Go with black. It's a funeral…
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You use name calling all the time and all the other posters and claim that your motive is to run off all other poster.
You are talking about yourself, Voice of Death, when you say posters shouldn't attack others.
So you are calling for your own ban from this website.
How about you stop attacking others and remove all your off topic comments to the off topic forum.
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You have not read enough or researched enough to be of any help to any of us here and that is the real problem..
You are living in a fantasy land promoting Nuclear poisons now spreading all over the globe and you think this is OK..
This is not OK and therefor you will get heat here..since we care and you do not.
Simple really!
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If it was safe, no one would be dissenting.
If it was contained, no one would be dissenting.
If it was cost effective as an energy source, no one would be dissenting.
If it was not based on lies, no one would be dissenting.
If it was not TATAL, no one would be dissenting.
If you were not a nuclear shill, no one would want you to go away.
If you were not an ignorant troll, we would say hi.
Look in the mirror, ask yourself why…
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I work full time, so I would not be a very prompt moderator.
I will say that a moderator system does not preclude anyone to be banned to enact it. Past is past on that.
Free speech is paramount.
A revised and posted TOS is the rule that should be honored.
After that has been violated, a system of degradation of posting rights would be in order. Even down to one post a forum a day.
I also like the idea of individuals having the ability to wall off an obnoxious poster from their views.
And my final point is that anywhere else you go, to any site of comments on the web, there is a system of moderation.
I can't go to another energy site and cause trouble for a group that ID's me as a trouble maker.
I would be kicked out lickity split…
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I agree , i think 4 would be a good number so nobody gets a burnout , availability etc
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I will say that a moderator system does not preclude anyone to be banned to enact it.
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I don't understand that sentence
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A revised and posted TOS is the rule that should be honored.
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What is a TOS ?
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I also like the idea of individuals having the ability to wall off an obnoxious poster from their views
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An ignore button..? agree..if admin has the energy and time to implement..up to him i guess
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And my final point is that anywhere else you go, to any site of comments on the web, there is a system of moderation.
I can't go to another energy site and cause trouble for a group that ID's me as a trouble maker.
I would be kicked out lickity split…
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Yeah so true..
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I do not agree if the moderator system is just to target an individual…
If this site is wild west style, the jerk still has a right to be.
If it's moderated forward, the jerk still has a right to be and there can't be any grandfathered violations.
Draw a line and wait for the crossing…
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No powerabuse or corruption to put it simple for the internationals correct ?
agree offcourse , thanks for putting it up front.
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"I do not agree if the moderator system is just to target an individual…"
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Ok Jebus.. got it now sry a made a few banning comment's after your post..i really did not got it..
And thank you for being open to the proposol..i hope others will follow..
Dear ADMIN , are you too.. ?
ok back to bed.
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OK, so it's hard to track VPN user.
It's NOT hard to wipe offending comments.
So –
1. too busy to bother even hiring some school kid to clean up targeted junk on occasion or
2. doesn't care
Good luck to any proposals for improvement.
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Hmm , even if we prepare a list of ace guy's and gal's willing to take it on them to provide a stable and secure environment within certain borders for all contributor's and readers.
Would he still not care about that opportunity ?
I find that hard to believe..hmm.
I have some digesting to do..
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So here is a suggestion; allow each blogger only three posts per thread. The allowable length could be extended for that literary masterpiece. That way, anybody can get their word in, and it would promote an upgrade in content quality; nobody would waste a post just for chat.
If someone wants to say they are the voice of god, or the jews did it, or its HAARP, or the world has gone fascist(thats my line), or perpetrators should be hammered and flayed and shot with ayahuasca darts and fried in solar cookers…or whatever, they should have a say but once or twice is enough. No hound dogging others or sunday drivel or auto-scriptflingin.
I mean, what if it really was the voice of god, and it turns out the Shinto instead of the Jews were actually chosen, but she/it got booted and then we had to go back to 2000 year old scrolls? I couldnt bear it
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Globally spread out, so there is always someone up watching over the group.
Communication channels open between admins and group owner to keep everyone in the loop about 'problem children', and get input on questionable cases.
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Wild west is what is here now.. anything goes.
This usually causes a group to die a quick death.. everyone leaves, due to not being willing to be the target of constant attacks by trolls, and having them take over the group.
Many have left already..
Prediction: The longer this "wild west" situation continues, the worse it will get in terms of people leaving.
It is possible to have 60,000 people and no one showing up due to this issue.
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They've come across enews somewhere, or friends link them and hope they'll drop by to view. Too often my friends or associates say the informative honest posters are great and the occasional side drifts of personal spats don't bother them. BUT when they follow a link I've given and by then the topic is saturated with disruptive pronuke comments, they can't even wade through to get see the information they were hoping to find and have no desire to become a member just to be attacked by people or bots trying to hack or shut the site down. So we lose a lot of potential real interactions with new people.
A moderator doesn't have to read every post made 24/7. 2 or 3 trusted folks with high speed servers and good assessment skills could go through new reports not yet dealt with. These moderators could have their own private mini-forum to discuss doubts or questions about potential actions warrenting warnings, temporary blocks or the finality of complete banishment. A status log could show reported comments of user's whose only purpose is to repeatedly bait and take over with intent of destroying the site's use & credibility.
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Thanks a bunch !
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if only 1 person alone would be on it just a few hours per week would be already a major improvement compared to now..
What the hell..everything would be an improvement from what it is now..
How many stock's have to burnout before somebody cares.. ?
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But see , we are saying the same thing..must be some truth in it..
ADMIN , i don't know if you are following this conversation but it would be nice to give us some clarity about your position on this..
Thanks in advance..
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Hello ADMIN , if you can find the time , could you please chime in on this conversation ? thx in advance.
DID
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Let's see what happens..
At least everyone can say they did their best.
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May our effort's to stop the degeneration of this wonderfull site be not so futile as our effort's to save our lives lol..
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But those that do and want to help , feel free to make ADMIN aware we are trying to talk to him.
Meantime , it would be appreciated if everybody would take a moment to think what they want from a moderator and who they think posses such quality's..
Then we can ask them who is willing..after ADMIN gave his blessing ofcourse..
I have a humble hope..
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Comments are deleted, bloggers are put into an awaiting moderation mode at times, and adding blogger moderators would get rid of the most ardent antiNuke bloggers by a hacking troll. Many of our trolls pretend to be anti-Nuke, such as Bill Duff. Then they start slipping in a few comments that show their pro Nuke bias, and they have conversations with themselves under 2 or more names to "authenticate" their pretend point of view.
I don't like troll attacks on anyone including me. But I have had to ask myself, why am I here? I am here as an anonymous blogger to aggregate information about nuclear technology and health, that is, that health is possible only if nuclear technology is abolished and banned worldwide, only if people have access to unpolluted land,, water, and air, which is not possible with energy company rape of the planet. And the worst rape is nuclear energy, but there are others: fracking, chemtrails, pesticides, herbicides, fossil fuels, etc, etc., etc., to name only a few.
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"and adding blogger moderators would get rid of the most ardent antiNuke bloggers by a hacking troll"
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That's a good warning to keep in mind when it is technically put in place..thx
But..
A person who is wrongfully banned by a hacker may create a new account..or simple has his/her ban undone..
But now some of the most ardent antinuke blogger's are also not happy , and not here..on their own will..harder to fix..
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Completely discredits itself with each identity.
Likes ineffectually shilling for nuclear power.
Thinks free speech means one can lie with impunity.
Exhibits characterisitcs of psychopathy, cult mentality and stalkerish infantility.
Denies factual reality and all science that is not pro-nuke to an absurd degree.
Possibly a sockpuppet (Chatbot), more likely a deranged person.
The only interesting aspect of it is the great frequency the opposite of what it states is true.
Feel free to copy, paste and append to every post it makes.
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That's because you have demonstrated every form of moral dissorder in the book.
Why are you so afraid this site may become moderated ? That's why..
If you would read what Jebus said above "the past is the past" you could deduct that if you behave from now you would be fine (that's how i read it, could be wrong ) .
But that is not doable for you because you have an agenda..too bad .
http://enenews.com/nuclear-professor-fukushima-really-major-event-washington-radioactive-aerosols-100000-times-above-normal-thought-wow-bigger-accident-hearing-audio/comment-page-1#comment-604914
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You really sound like a sound bite bot.
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http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/12/whoiaea-collusion-negative-health.html
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By choice.
Something that was never offered in 70 years.
We are one to change that…
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VD you are the only person talking about flames of hatred.
Please take your attacks and blasphemy somewhere else.
God prohibits murder. The nuclear industry is mass, random, premeditated murder as proclaimed by Dr. Gofman.
Last I heard murderers are not held in high esteem in civilized societies. They are put in jail, and not allowed to glorify their deeds. They are not allowed to profit from their misdeeds either.
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And it is also just another symptom of your personality being psychopatic deseased.
And yes , you should be banned , and be locked up in a moral bootcamp. You fall outside the part of humanity that has evolved mutual respect enough to invent the concept of freespeech.
You are just a gnat living inside a human container, trying to use ENEnews for securing nuclear armageddon upon this world.
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How so?
You are getting your ..yippie yippee on…
What more do you want?
Agreement?..IN YOUR DREAMS?
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You're 'barking up the wrong tree".
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Woof..woof….grrrrrr……
LOLOL.
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Just saying….LOL.
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"And we need moderation?
How so?"
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I hope you are kidding Heart.. i really do..
Today there were 3 people active in a way that should be "moderated" with the least amount of energy waste..simple autorithy..
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Do you actually believe that God is the Great Deceiver? I pity you when you have to meet your Maker. The Way, the Truth, and the Life will hold you to account when you meet up someday.
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I would say that anne is just schooling you on the authentic, Word of God…
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Your industry is done. You have wasted your life on a lie.
Man up, stand behind your authoritative words.
You would think you would be proud.
How?
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http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/02/nuclear-controversies-by-vladimir.html
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Why do you pretend on other occasions that you haven't been hostile to others many, many times and that the only reason you are on this website is that you want to shut it down?
You are the one who is afraid of free speech and afraid of the truth.
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Please be a truthful person and stop hacking into this website. Rotating identities and using illegal VPNs is not being committed to the truth.
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You can't even stand in public and support your views. Strong individuals are embolden by the truth.
Weak individuals ashamed hide…
You say you are an authority, but you fear yourself and are ashamed of wasting all those years on a lie.
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Those who are ashamed and afraid do not. They just disrupt.
Who are you?
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Get it?
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You think you are an expert in your narrow tunnel of specialization. It makes you lazy, ashamed, and fearfull that your status is not recognized. You have doubts about your opinion or you would be proud to present your superior judgements, happily signed by you.
You are lazy.
I see no one else here carrying that burden…
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Most would invite you in.
As it stands, you don't even come close to that meme…
predetermined intent, because you can not slide the topic title.
It is your mistake and the joke is on you because stock is all around you here.
You just can't bring yourself to notice…